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PostSubject: Re: controversial topics (Discussion)   Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:24 pm

lol. The bible is the last place they want to look for morals and ethics. I have entire lists where it shows atrocities that were deemed valiant and holy.

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PostSubject: Re: controversial topics (Discussion)   Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:17 pm

I could bring up a graphic where it charts the kill count of the Judaic/Christian god an Satan, but that is beside the point. The school administrators should have told the anti-abortion people to leave because they are being disruptive.

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PostSubject: Re: controversial topics (Discussion)   Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:40 pm

They have those rallies here every so often around the high schools and the admins can't tell anyone to leave if they arent on the property. They've gotten smart by standing across the street with their signs panflits and chants but I remember those from when I was in highschool and besides the aborted fetus pictures which is disgusting we used to troll them every bit as hard as they were trolling us.

This would go for the drug free people too, we'd get their "proud to be drug free" ribbons then rip "free" off and change it to say "proud to be a druggie" even the none druggies just because of the morality bashing.

this is a weird city though and those were diffrent times

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PostSubject: Re: controversial topics (Discussion)   Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:51 pm

They can call the police for disrupting the peace, especially if they are shouting.

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PostSubject: Re: controversial topics (Discussion)   Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:11 am

I work several blocks from the school, so I don't know how things turned out... might check the paper tomorrow morning when the boss brings it in.

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PostSubject: Re: controversial topics (Discussion)   Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:22 pm

Okay, here's a new one.

Due to the current rights and abilities of teachers and their institutions, and the current decline of intelligence, the education should be reformed as follows:

*Due to the benefits of learning multiple languages, and the current immigrations (legal and otherwise), it will be required to learn (immersion style or half-immersion) one secondary language starting in 1st or 2nd grade, and second secondary language starting about 5th or 6th grade (along with English and the 1st secondary language). A third, separate language would be made available starting in the 9th grade.

*Until the beginning of the 9th grade, children are not full citizens of the US. Around the time of the 9th grade, they will be allowed to take the citizenship test. This test will require them to be proficient in the workings of the government, be of acceptable levels in academics, and said students will not be able to be employed before they take and pass this test. This should put some fire under their asses and make them WANT to be in school, lest they fail the citizenship test. Before this test, they are considered US-born residents.

*Literacy and proficiency levels are to be set for each grade level. Failure means repetition of that grade level. Too many failures means expulsion.


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PostSubject: Re: controversial topics (Discussion)   Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:05 pm

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Due to the current rights and abilities of teachers and their institutions, and the current decline of intelligence, the education should be reformed as follows:
quit cutting school budgets and they can afford to rase the level of education back to what it once was when we were on top of the game

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*Due to the benefits of learning multiple languages, and the current immigrations (legal and otherwise), it will be required to learn (immersion style or half-immersion) one secondary language starting in 1st or 2nd grade, and second secondary language starting about 5th or 6th grade (along with English and the 1st secondary language). A third, separate language would be made available starting in the 9th grade.
I dont see the point of this, then again around here everyone learns spanish around the 9th grade anyway and theres really not much need to know to much more unless we're supposed to all be translators in the UN or something...

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*Until the beginning of the 9th grade, children are not full citizens of the US. Around the time of the 9th grade, they will be allowed to take the citizenship test. This test will require them to be proficient in the workings of the government, be of acceptable levels in academics, and said students will not be able to be employed before they take and pass this test. This should put some fire under their asses and make them WANT to be in school, lest they fail the citizenship test. Before this test, they are considered US-born residents.
No, worst idea ever. This leaves every child to the possible owning by government goon squads worse then the INS that can and I'm betting would go and remove unwanted children and no there is nothing the parrents could do because they are harboring none citizens. It is a great way to bring about military camps filled with growing killing machines and dont think they wouldn't use that opportunity.

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*Literacy and proficiency levels are to be set for each grade level. Failure means repetition of that grade level. Too many failures means expulsion.
remove "no child left behind" amd re instate the old system that I grew up under its basicly the same thing...

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PostSubject: Re: controversial topics (Discussion)   Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:27 pm

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I dont see the point of this, then again around here everyone learns spanish around the 9th grade anyway and theres really not much need to know to much more unless we're supposed to all be translators in the UN or something...


The best age to learn a language is before the age of 9. Learning languages makes the mind more flexible and better able to absorb knowledge. Most studies show that kids that learn secondary languages tend to out perform their peers that haven't. And learning more than just Spanish would not only help in getting a job later (there's more jobs out there that require other languages than you think) but would also help one keep in touch with heritage and would also put a cork in the proverbial mouth of the English First lobbyist group.

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No, worst idea ever. This leaves every child to the possible owning by government goon squads worse then the INS that can and I'm betting would go and remove unwanted children and no there is nothing the parrents could do because they are harboring none citizens. It is a great way to bring about military camps filled with growing killing machines and dont think they wouldn't use that opportunity.


I didn't say they would be without rights. I meant that they would be banned from certain things (such as work) until they passed this test. Per current law, children are owned by parents. The law can do many a thing with them already that the parents may or may not like. Being born in the US would entitle them to most rights, but ban them from others so they get their act together.

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remove "no child left behind" amd re instate the old system that I grew up under its basicly the same thing...


Even with that system, teacher's couldn't do anything but sit there and yell at kids.

I wouldn't want many of the things I stated enacted, but it does give some very lively discussion which has been absent for a while.

Endless, are you being sarcastic, or were you just typing fast?

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PostSubject: Re: controversial topics (Discussion)   Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:09 pm

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Even with that system, teacher's couldn't do anything but sit there and yell at kids.
not a catholic school fan then? axe

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Endless, are you being sarcastic, or were you just typing fast?
a little of both with some sardonic for flavor grin

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PostSubject: Re: controversial topics (Discussion)   Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:45 pm

Heh. I've only ever gone to public schools... with the exception of kindergarten and first grade which were in a Lutheran private school. Catholic schools never really come to my mind when I think school.

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PostSubject: Re: controversial topics (Discussion)   Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:32 pm

So, what is everyone's take on the Greek Macedonian and Former Yugoslavian / Republic of Macedonia conflict?

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